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Wednesday, February 18, 2009

Interview with Leo Babauta of Zen Habits

Leo Babauta, the owner of Zen Habits, a hugely successful blog, was kind enough to join me on my radio show today ... listen to the entire audio clip or download it here (or scroll down on the right side bar of this blog to the audio player) ... and although we had some technical difficulties at the beginning, the show then went on brilliantly.

I don't want to rehash what was said ... except this: at one point I asked Leo the following question: would it be fair to say that one of the things that has happened through your blog, and by being so frank about your own work with yourself in your posts on the blog, you actually grew to some extent by virtue of using the blog - and your many readers' commentaries - as a sort of sounding board, a mirror, that in turn allowed you to see yourself more clearly, even allowed you to recognize things that perhaps without this feedback of both the posts as you wrote them and the commentaries as you received them, you might not have recognized?

He essentially concurred, and added (very humbly) that he felt he had gained much from the wisdom of his readers and their questions and commentaries, because frequently he had needed to do a great deal of soul-searching in order to answer questions they were asking of him.

This is - I believe - a fundamental element of growth for anyone who works with others, in whatever guise, and academic background is not a prerequisite. In my own practice it is so often the case that I gain at least as much as my clients from our interaction although I'm the one that gets paid and I have often been amazed at the mirror image that is being offered to me as my clients recount their own travails, inner and outer.

However, in order for this to work, the ego has to be left on a back burner - or forgotten about altogether. We are all divine, and we are all one, but we are not God as we face those who come to us with questions.

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